Tale of the Tape: Cincinnati vs Syracuse

This week on the ToT the Bearcats of Cincinnati will go to the Dome to do battle with the Orange of Syracuse. The teams are playing for an orange Big O. Tattoo





Born on Date
Cincy: 1819 vs SU: 1870
Ottos Edge: Cincy... who also has the 4th oldest Law School

Edumacation
Cincy: Tier 3 (US News) vs SU: Tier 1
Ottos Edge: SU... thats a lot of students (nearly 40k) not learning very much

GPS (location)
Cincy: Cincy vs SU: Syracuse
Ottos Edge: Push... both schools were named after the city

However...

City named after
Cincy: George Washington vs SU: Siricusa, Sicily
Ottos Edge: Cincy... Cincinnatus was a Roman General who after war relinquished his powers much like GW

Local nut job
Cincy: Charles Manson vs SU: Tom Cruise
Ottos Edge: Cincy... Cruise is still at large

Local Brothers
Cincy: Nick/Drew Lachey vs SU: Baldwins
Ottos Edge: Push... there are no winners here

Airport
Cincy: Greater Cincinnati (which is in Kentucky) vs SU: Hancock International
Ottos Edge: SU... at least ours is in the same state

Also misnamed…

Coney Island Amusement Park
Cincy: in Cincy vs SU: in Brooklyn
Ottos Edge: SU... cant beat the original

Sticking with names...

City Nickname
Cincy: Queen City vs SU: Salt City
Ottos Edge: SU... not that there is anything wrong with that

Some may call them Queens…

School Leader
Cincy: Nancy Zimpher vs SU: Nancy Cantor
Ottos Edge: SU... Zimpher is no longer at Cincy and is now Chancellor of SUNY

Speaking of Nancys…

Public Service
Cincy: William Howard Taft (CINCY law) Pres and Chief justice vs SU: Donna Shalala Secretary US Department of Health and Human Services
Ottos Edge: Cincy... Taft's father wouldnt let him play FB at Yale (undergrad) cuz it was not safe and not a gentleman's sport. Wuss.

Taft was round like a…

Mascot
Cincy: a Bearcat vs SU: an Orange
Ottos Edge: SU... Otto is fierce

Speaking of fierce…

Interior Design
Cincy: top notch program vs SU: Thom Filicia (alum) from Queer Eye
Ottos Edge: Push... dont ask me, my place is a mess

While we are on Queer…

Actor
Cincy: alum Randy Harrison (Queer as Folk) vs SU: Tom Cruise (Syracuse native)
Ottos Edge: SU... I was gonna make a joke but Cruises lawyers wouldnt let me

Ok enough of this, time for some manly categories…

Fighters
Cincy: Rich Franklin (UFC) vs SU: Mike Rotunda (WWF)
Ottos Edge: Cincy... ultimate fighting is as real as it gets

Adult Mags
Cincy: Stephanie Heinrich (Cincy and Playboy alum), Carmen Electra (native) vs SU: Vanessa Williams (alum)
Ottos Edge: Cincy... aaaahhh Carmen. Also Miss Heinrich was one of Hef's girls

Someone who was anti porn (boo)...

Name from last election
Cincy: Charles Keating (alum was buddies with McCain) vs SU: Biden
Ottos Edge: SU... well our guy was a positive to the campaign (I think)

Keating wouldnt have liked...

Nekked
Cincy: Naked Cowboy (alum) vs SU: Lexington Steele
Ottos Edge: SU... weird fact: you can get married by the Naked Cowboy

Getting back to manly things...

Let's put the women and children to bed and go lookin' for dinner! (Food)

Beef
Cincy: Goetta (ground meat and oats) vs SU: Heids Hotdog
Ottos Edge: SU... I have never been to Heids but goetta sounds gross.

Chilli
Cincy: Skyline (over spaghetti) vs SU: Dino (normal)
Ottos Edge: SU... not a chilli fan but I dont see the point of adding it to spaghetti

Ice Cream
Cincy: Graeter's vs SU: Byrne Dairy
Ottos Edge: Push... we all win with ice cream

And now the manliest sport of them all…

1st year of FB
Cincy: 1885 (5th oldest) vs SU: 1889
Ottos Edge: Cincy... if it werent for their age they would have no tradition

All Time Wins
Cincy: 500+ vs SU: 600+
Ottos Edge: SU... Cincy is 1 game over .500, lets send them back to even

Bowl Games
Cincy: 5-5 vs SU 12-9-1
Ottos Edge: SU... not many are as good as SU

Head to Head
Cincy: 5 wins vs SU: 4 wins
Ottos Edge: Cincy… but that will be back to even after Sat as well

Rival
Cincy: Miami vs SU: Colgate
Ottos Edge: Cincy... they have played Miami since 1888 (8th oldest) while SU hasnt played Colgate (65 meetings) since 1987 and only 3 times since 1961. However CINCY trails the Miami series 47-59-7

No one, and I mean no one, comes into our house and pushes us around (Home Field)
Cincy: Nippert (35k) vs SU: Carrier Dome
Ottos Edge: SU… theirs is out of date.

Nippert is one of the oldest stadiums (1924) and was named after Jimmy Nippert. On Thanksgiving of 1923 he was cleated in a game against rival Miami. He died of blood poisoning on Christmas. His grandfather donated $250k toward the stadium to help complete it.

Founding Member of
Cincy: Metro Conf vs SU: BE Conf
Ottos Edge: SU... we made the BE

QBs
Cincy: Gino Guidugli (#1 Cincy passing yards), Greg Cook vs SU: McNabb, Graves, McPherson
Ottos Edge: SU... not very close

All time leading rusher
Cincy: Reggie Taylor vs SU: Joe Morris
Ottos Edge: SU... Lil Joe was big

WR
Cincy: LaDaris Vann (#1 Cincy yards) vs SU Quadry Ismail
Ottos Edge: SU... didnt even have to take out the big guns

OLmen
Cincy: Jason Fabini vs SU: Jim Ringo
Ottos Edge: SU… another win for SU

Safety
Cincy: Sam Garnes vs SU: Donovin Darius
Ottos Edge: SU... easy win for SU

K
Cincy: Jim Obrien (who is also #2 Cincy WR yards) vs SU: Gary Anderson
Ottos Edge: Cincy... bonus points for hitting SB V game winner and being a real FB player

Bobby Boucher (best defender)
Cincy: Aaron Webster vs SU: Derrell Smith
Ottos Edge: SU... as long as he plays

Former coach
Cincy: Sid Gillman vs SU: Ben Schwartzwalder
Ottos Edge: Cincy... Ben won a title in CFB but Sid won an AFL title and had a bigger influence on the game

While we are on coaches…

Dick MacPherson
Cincy: Asst during the early 1960s vs SU: Head Coach
Ottos Edge: SU... Don Nehlen and Urban Meyer were also Assts at CINCY

Former Alum now HC
Cincy: Urban Meyer vs SU: HCRE
Ottos Edge: Cincy... he has the rings to prove it

BBall Coach
Cincy: Huggins vs SU: JB
Ottos Edge: SU… oh wait thats right they sent Bob packing and havent been the same since

Sticking with BBall…

BBall Great
Cincy: Oscar Robertson vs SU: Dave Bing
Ottos Edge: Cincy... the Big O wins this one

Denver Nugget
Cincy: Kenyon Martin vs SU: Melo
Ottos Edge: SU… Melo comes through

Mellos sidekick at SU…

"Jerry, Jerry, Jerry"
Cincy: Jerry Springer vs SU: GMac
Ottos Edge: SU... how the hell was Springer mayor? GMac could be mayor in SYR or Scranton.

Moving on to another sport…

Baseball
Cincy: Sandy Koufax (alum), Kevin Youkilis (alum), Kenesaw Mountain Landis (alum), Pete Rose (son of city), Marg Schott (Reds owner) vs SU: Skychiefs
Ottos Edge: SU... not giving this to Cincy until that SOB Rose admits what he did. Bonus negative points for Youkilis (and his beard), as well as Landis who was anti integration, and Schott, although she was a character.

Characters are found on TV shows created by…

TV writer/producer
Cincy: Earl Hamner (The Waltons/Falcon Crest) vs SU: Aaron Sorkin (The West Wing)
Ottos Edge: SU... he gets bonus points for A Few Good Men

And on TV are gameshows…

$20,000 Pyramid
Cincy: Nipsey Russell vs SU: Dick Clark
Ottos Edge: For the category, here is your subject. Go!

Salt potatoes… Things that are side dishes?
Lake effect snow… Things that arent good cold?
Erie Canal… hmmmmm
Destiny USA…. Things that are fictional?
Sorry time is up. What if I said “44”?... ooooh SU

From TV to…

Radio
Cincy: WXRP's Jennifer Marlowe vs SU: WFAN's Marc Malusis
Ottos Edge: Cincy... where is Loni these days?

We now have satellite radio. And a satellite (Sputnik) launched the space race which led to…

Astronaut
Cincy: Neil Armstrong (taught there) the first man on the moon vs Eileen Collins (alum) the first female pilot
Ottos Edge: Cincy... unless of course you believe it was staged

Speaking of the stage...

Zero Point Zero (alum that didnt graduate)
Cincy: George Clooney vs SU: Vanessa Williams
Ottos Edge: SU... well she was a Fox (was married to Rick)

And finally this year’s category of the week…

Competitive Eater
Cincy: Billy Taft vs SU: Doug Marrone
Ottos Edge: SU... Marrone handles the 300 pounder and takes it home


And the Tattoo goes to...


The Syracuse Orangemen as they upset Cincy, signaling their return.

Cuse Cast XIX

KingOtto and Cuseman preview the Akron game, discuss the upcoming season, and compare Girardi's book to Marrone's book. Combined score SU 28 Akron 17


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Length about 24:45

Tale of the Tape: Akron Zips vs Syracuse Orange

To kick off the second half of the season SU will be taking on the Zips of Akron. The two teams will do battle for an orange kangaroo tattoo.





Born on Date
Akron: Founded 1870 vs SU: 1870
Ottos Edge: Push… Akron was founded as Buchtel College in 1870.

In 1913 ownership was transferred to the city of…

GPS (location)
Akron: Akron vs SU: Syracuse
Ottos Edge: Akron … which has a larger population (215k vs 140K)

City aka
Akron: Rubber City vs SU: Salt City
Ottos Edge: Akron … they are the Rubber Capital of the World. Major tire companies were headquartered there, including BF Goodrich and Goodyear.

Speaking of Goodyear…

Transportation fame
Akron: site of first Zeppelin built in the US vs SU: Erie Canal used to run through
Ottos Edge: Akron … Goodyear abandoned their Zeppelin production and went into Blimps

Remaining on vehicles…

City hosts
Akron: The Soap Box Derby World Championships vs SU: The Great NY State Fair
Ottos Edge: SU… they don’t call it great for nuttin

Akron also hosts...

Hamburger History
Akron: The National Hamburger Festival vs SU: Hamburg , NY
Ottos Edge: Push… we are all winners thanks to the creation of the Hamburger.

According to legend the Hamburger was created in 1885 at the Erie County Fair. Brothers Frank and Charles Menches ran out of sausage patties and their supplier didn’t want to butcher more hogs in the heat. He suggested beef instead and the brothers added ingredients (coffee, brown sugar) to add more taste. They named it the Hamburg Sandwich, after the fairs location.

Sticking with burgers…

Let's put the women and children to bed and go lookin' for dinner! (Eatery)
Akron: Menches Brothers Restaurants (where you can still get the original burger recipe) vs SU: Dino BBQ
Ottos Edge: SU… that burger sounds gross. While ribs are hmmm good.

Even more so with a side of…

Created in the city
Akron: Alcoholics Anonymous vs SU: Salt Potatoes
Ottos Edge: SU… man I am starting to get hungry

Finishing our food…

City Redevelopment
Akron: Quaker Square vs SU: Connective Corridor
Ottos Edge: Akron … Quaker Square used to be an old Quaker Oats factory. In the early 70s it was converted into a mall and the silos became a round hotel (like the Renaissance in Syracuse ). Recently Akron purchased the hotel as residence hall space.

They need that extra space to provide an…

Edumaction
Akron: Tier 4 (US News) vs SU Tier 1
Ottos Edge: SU… I used my SU education to deduct that Tier 1 is better

School best know for
Akron: College of Polymer Science and Engineering vs SU: Newhouse
Ottos Edge: Akron … where would we be without plastic?

At the grocery store you get bags that are plastic or…

Paper
Akron: The Buchtelite vs SU: DO
Ottos Edge: SU… their paper sounds like a religious cult

Some consider FB to be a religion and has been practiced since…

1st year of FB
Akron: 1891 vs SU: 1889
Ottos Edge: SU… two years longer and more successful too. Akron was DII until 1980 when they moved to 1AA. Then in 1987 they joined D1A.

All Time Wins
Akron: 483 vs SU: 675
Ottos Edge: SU… ok much more successful

And we play in a better…

Conference
Akron: MAC (joined in '92) vs SU: BE
Ottos Edge: SU… we found something worse than the BE

Success in the Conf is marked by…

Championships
Akron: 1 MAC vs SU: 4 BE and 1 National
Ottos Edge: SU… Akrons best season was in 1976 when they played in the Pioneer Bowl (DII Championship), losing to Montana St.

Conf Champ goes to…

Bowl Record
Akron: 0-1 vs SU: 12-9-1
Ottos Edge: SU… now it is getting ugly.

Maybe we should look…

Head to Head
Akron: One Win vs SU: Zero Wins
Ottos Edge: Akron... thanks GRob

A team that you have played many times is often called a…

Rival
Akron: Kent St (29-20-2) vs SU: Still Looking
Ottos Edge: Akron ... the two schools are only 10 miles apart. The teams play for the Wagon Wheel:

“The story goes that John R. Buchtel was searching for a site to start a new college in 1870 near what is now Kent State University when his wagon became stuck in the mud. The horses pulled the wagon apart and one of the wheels ended up being buried. Buchtel would eventually settle on a site in Akron for Buchtel College , which would eventually become the University of Akron. In 1902, while digging for a pipeline in Kent , the wheel was discovered and eventually came into the possession of Kent State dean of men Dr. Raymond Manchester. It was he who suggested in 1945 that the wheel be used as a trophy for the winner of the Kent State-Akron football game."

When the rivalry started Akron (11-0-1) won all the games. Then Kent St (9-0) won big every year causing the series to be stopped in 1954. It started up again in 1972 (a tie) and Akron (10-2) has dominated recently. Also, Akron (Rubber) used to play Youngstown St (Steel) for the Steel Tire until the series ended in 1995 (14-19-2).

It is important to beat your rival on your…

No one, and I mean no one, comes into our house and pushes us around (Home Field)
Akron: Summa Field at InfoCision Stadium (30k) vs SU: Dome
Ottos Edge: SU… I thought Ernie Davis Legends Field at the Carrier Dome was bad.

The Rubber Bowl was replaced this year by the new stadium which had stadium naming rights bought by InfoCision ($10 million for 20 years), field rights by Summa Health ($5 million for 20 years), club seating rights by FirstMerit, and Towpath Credit Union will pay $500k for 5 years of naming rights to the Press Box.

The new stadium has a strange name just like their…

Team Name
Akron: Zips vs SU: Orange
Ottos Edge: SU… Zips is short for Zippers, rubber galoshes once made by the BF Goodrich Company. The term Zipper was coined to market the shoes that made use of a new fastener (zipper).

Speaking of shoes, don’t ask him to take his off…

Seinfeld connection
Akron: Comedian George Wallace was Jerry’s best man vs SU: Jerry Stiller played Frank Costanza
Ottos Edge: SU… I bet Frank owned some Zips to combat his foot odor problem

While the team is named after a shoe, it is not the teams...

Mascot
Akron: Zippy the Kangaroo vs SU: Otto the Orange
Ottos Edge: Akron … Zippy was the Capital One Mascot of the Year in 2007. Also Zippy is one of the few female college mascots.

Speaking of females…

Well known Hottie
Akron: Heather Kozar (Akron native) vs SU: Vanessa Williams
Ottos Edge: Akron … she was a Barker Beauty. If she is good enough for Bob she is good enough for me.

Kozar is married to Tim Couch, who was drafted ahead of…

NFL QB
Akron: Charlie Frye vs SU: McNabb
Ottos Edge: SU… no contest

Speaking of contests…

NFL DE
Akron: Jason Taylor vs SU: Freeney
Ottos Edge: SU… sorry but real FB players don’t go on dancing contest shows. What ever happened to drinking the night before games and running around chasing women? Those were men.

While we are talking about real men…

Great Catcher
Akron: Thurman Munson (born Akron ) vs SU: Marvin Harrison
Ottos Edge: Akron … Munson grew up in Canton , where Harrison will one day enter the HoF .

Another former SU WR is…

Current NY Giants
Akron: Chase Blackburn, Domenik Hixon vs SU: Tom Coughlin
Ottos Edge: SU… this may be my favorite category

Sticking with the Giants...

Former Giant Larry Csonka
Akron: from there vs SU: played there
Ottos Edge: SU... he also played for some team in Miami

Championship INT
Akron: Dwight Smith (a record 2 INT TDs for the Bucs in SB XXXVII against the Raiders) vs
SU: Carl Karilivacz (INT for Giants in 1958 Champ Game against Colts)
Ottos Edge: Akron … Smiths team won the game defeating SUs Al Davis and Raiders. While the Giants lost the “Greatest Game Ever Played” to Johnny U and the Colts.

Remaining on defenders…

Bobby Boucher (best defender)
Akron: LB Mike Thomas vs SU: Art Jones
Ottos Edge: Akron… well there D is 75th in ppg while SU is 98th

Speaking of not so good…

BBall Success
Akron: in 2006 won 1st ever post season game (NIT) vs SU: Top National Program
Ottos Edge: Akron … they have been to the NIT four times (1987, 1989, 2006, 2008) and NCAAs twice (1986, 2009 losing last year to Gonzaga 77-64).

Sticking with BBall…

Famous BBall HC
Akron: Bob Huggins (97-46 at Akron ) vs SU: JB
Ottos Edge: SU… well if you were looking for a reason to hate Akron , here it is

JB coached both…

NBA Star
Akron: Lebron James ( Akron native) vs SU: Melo
Ottos Edge: Akron … ESPN says Lebron is better and they know all

Other HCs with an Akron connection…

Jim Tressel
Akron: former GA vs SU: former QB coach
Ottos Edge: Akron … he got his start there

and...

Heisman
Akron: John Heisman (the Trophy guy) coached there in 1893 vs SU: Ernie Davis won award
Ottos Edge: Akron … the award was named for him after all

Former HC
Akron: Gerry Faust (went to Akron after ND) vs SU: Coach Mac
Ottos Edge: SU… Faust was at Akron from 1986-94. Also former ND HC Ara Parseghian is an Akron native.

Sticking with ND guys...

FB Family
Akron: LB Ed Grimsley 1983-86 (more famous brother John) vs SU: LB David Bavaro 1986-89 (more famous brother Mark)
Ottos Edge: SU… we could sure use both Bavaro's right now

Sticking with brothers and the category of the week...

Competitive Eaters
Akron:Bob and Mike Golic (from Akron) vs SU: Doug Marrone
Ottos Edge: SU... again with the Nurtisystem?


And the Tattoo goes to.....


When a problem comes a long you must zip it. Zip it good. The Syracuse Orange zip past the Akron Galoshes.

Cuse Cast XVIII

KingOtto and Cuseman discuss Balloon Boy, recap the WV game, grade out the first half of the season, and give their thoughts on the rest of the season.


Length about 24:15

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Cuse Cast XVII

KingOtto and Cuseman recap the USF game and look ahead to WV. Avg predicted score WV 36 SU 25.


Length about 23:30 mins
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